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Im closing in on 7yrs of sobriety myself. Be strong brother you got this. Hoffman is only the latest victim of a predictable as well as fabricated epidemic of heroin addiction that is spreading from coast to coast. During the Reagan administration the practice of medicine was snatched out of the hands of the M. The end result is a system that invents diseases, convinces the public that they are afflicted then offers a solution for a fee. In many states the Big Pharma lobbyists have authored and paid legislators to pass legislation which holds doctors liable for under-prescribing pain medication.
Today, doctors are able to fill these orders on sight and are paid cryptic benefits for volume. Drug addiction is a billion dollar enterprise globally and Pharmaceutical companies want their share of the addict dollar. If it were up to the pharmaceutical industry every American would be consuming several substances, needed or not, from cradle to grave. I drank for 13 years, so I'm almost sober 3 times longer than I drank.
Drinking long ago became a non-issue for me, and I took a 12 year reprieve from meetings and AA. But I was married to a woman who was extremely helpful and we went to couples counseling for about 10 of those years, so I continued to work on myself with her help and the counselors help, and made some great progress during that period. I am now divorced and attending meetings again, and enjoying it. Great article, it's good to hear evidence that we stabilize with years of practice.
There are a number of variables to consider. Not just to discuss them in meetings. In particular, steps 4,5,6,7,8,9,10?
Many skimp on these steps, and pay the price. We need to continue with step 10 if we want to stay healthy. Recovery IS a spiritual solution to our addictions. I've been working intensely on step 11 for the past year with really great results. We never stop growing, or we go backwards. At 10 years sober, experiencing ongoing depression, I was actually elated to read the Bill Wilson suffered depression into his 15th year sober!
I then knew I was not alone! Addiction is not a Prozac Deficiency, or a Valium Deficiency, or whatever is the trendy drug they want to substitute nowadays. I tend to think that the use of prescription meds can interfere with actual recovery. Just my opinion, take it or leave it. I personally never used any anti-depressants, and I am personally skeptical of their use except as a very short term attempt to kick start someone out of a rut, then back to abstinence.
As addiction stated in his comment, we can't trust Doctors and Big Pharma with our lives, we need to use our own common sense. Doctors today are too quick to prescribe meds to addicts. Any prescription drug can quickly become a Gateway Drug for an addict, so we need to be our own doctors there, and be very wary of these doctors.
Just my opinion, but it's worked well for me and dozens of others I know with decades of sobriety. While you are correct that bill suffered from depression. And what now today might be labeled as bi-polar. It is in AA literature thank god. To let doctors be doctors and that we only know a little that more will be revealed.
I say this as cautionary advice because there are groups whom if you take any mind altering medication they will not sponsor nor accept you at least in my area and yes I know this isn't inline with the traditions. So while I congratulate you for not needing psychiatric mediations, I myself am no one to judge who and who doesn't need them in recovery.
I know several Schizophrenic's whom without their medications yes I've seen them without are dangerous not only to themselves but others. When Bill got sober it was an entirely different world remember medically we know so much more now and will in the future. Organic mental illness is just that Its organic can be diagnosed differentially and many self-medicate not knowing.
Who swear if they hadn't stabilized their mood they would be dead today one way or another.app.omnicuremd.com/ts-350-manual-de-taller.php
8 Women Share What Made Them Finally Decide To Get Sober
I also think it is over prescribed but that's just my opinion. I as a sponsor would never suggest to someone that they weren't sober if they were taking prescribed mood stabilizing medications anti -psychotic, anti- depressants etc I guess in short I don't play doctor or judge. It's also in the AA sponsorship brochure. Oddly many dont read that? Just his opinion?
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There are people that actively preach this anti-doctor and anti-medication dogma, as if people who take medications are somehow "less sober" or not sober at all. They call everything from Ativan to anti-depressants to anti-convulsants or ANY prescription drug as Delray Dude admits "dope" or "mind altering drugs". Good Lord, cigarettes, coffee and sugar are mind altering drugs. They are valuing their religious step beliefs over your health and safety. Many of these people would be well-served to be on medications themselves, and some are outright psychopaths who should be locked up and not playing doctor.
Telling someone to go off meds and that it's "just their opinion" is bullsh1t. I've been sober for 20 years and have dealt with many dual diagnosis Alcoholics. I have never heard of anyone with an extended period of sobriety ever telling anyone not to take their meds, but just like the rest of the world there is no shortage of bad advice, mostly from highly motivated advocates with lots of energy and little sobriety. If anything people with dumb ideas like that are less common at meetings than in the general public. If I do work with anyone who is dual diagnosis it would be pretty normal to encourage them to work with their psychiatrist to figure out exactly what level of medication they needed.
I know people who got over their anxiety disorders but not anyone who is no longer bi-polar or psychotic. I am a physician. I am an addict in recovery. I find it very difficult and heartbreaking to see addicts and alcoholics as patients who are denied what they actually need because of cost. They need what I have We have over 90 percent abstinence throughout the 5 years. I never needed another drug, by the way. Anti-depressants are not "short term" medication.
If anything, they enhance recovery rather than detract from it. Your reasoning is not sound. I have only been in recovery for 7years from compulsive addicted gambling, and sometimes to much alcohol when I gambled. It's sad to read how "Celebrities" seem to get all the attention when they die or commit suicide from various addictions while their are many, many more who die everyday that had long recovery time and then some major life event happens and they relapse.
It's why we need to work on our recovery each and everyday to help NOT become complacent. You don't have a "Balanced Recovery" if you don't. Use a "Relapse Prevention Daily Plan" so you will be prepared, and not be caught off guard when a life event happens.
Excellent article; thank you! This is my 20th year of sobriety. I've used a sponsor since my first months and attend meetings every week. I have a service commitment and sponsor others. I don't talk about my major depressive disorder, but I've got it, and it has not gone away. This is between my psychiatrist and me. My meds have been as low as the smallest dosage of wellbutrin -- a year ago -- to today when I am on the highest plus one other.
Opiates heroin, pot, oxycontin are instantly "gratifying" mood alterers. Anti-depressants are not. They put a "floor" between me and the abyss.
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If you have major clinical depression, you understand the abyss. Anti-depressants keep me alive, as do therapy and practicing the principles to the best of my ability. I am glad that not all of us in recovery have been diagnosed by a specialist as having a depressive disorder. I don't judge the appropriateness of meds for insulin-dependent diabetics, despite occasional spikes in my own blood sugar. I would hope that those with occasional episodes of depression would not judge those of us who requires meds to help manage our depressive disorders.
I'm sober 32 years and I have been out of work for almost a year now. I have found myself withdrawing, and my anxiety is also high. My sponsor never calls and I feel very alienated from people in the program, I do talk about how I feel but at the same time feel misunderstood. You need to call your sponsor. My sponsor of 20 years never calls me. You have to chase your sobriety the way you chased a drink. Poor me, poor me, pour me a drink. Please go to meetings and let people know how you feel.
I am coming up on 5 yrs,I tend to the same also. Depression is a beast and very cunning. I drag myself out of the house some days. I make excuses for not going to meetings but I know I need to. If anything just for the socail interaction. Best wishes and congrats on 32 years. Hey, Dude.
I'm sober 5 years thanks to a good website, SSRI's and therapyand most importantly, me.
Recent focus on celebrities dying after 20 years of sobriety raises the question
If I had taken the AAer advice of no drugs I would have killed myself. Consider yourself lucky that your ONLY problem was addiction. On top of my addiction I had severe depression. The depression is finally getting better took near 5 years , but it's still there and way more difficult to manage than my alcohol addiction.
To those who find themselves with both addiction and mental illness, hang in there, and remember to get your medical advice from doctors, not fellow recovery people. On May 17 I will achieve 25 years' continuous sobriety. I don't smoke 23 years either. I also take lithium daily, and occasionally have to take antidepressants. I retain my addiction to Pink Floyd, strong coffee, and gardening. And so what. My cousin and my best friend have 2 and 3 years on me, respectively and neither like Roger Waters. The most important element of a step program is the 12 steps.
It is not meetings, sponsors, how many days you have been hanging around the rooms and "slipping" , your charm and popularity, or an endless stream of advice - who makes this shit up, anyway? AA's co-founder, Bill Wilson, saw a psychiatrist for 7 years, who became his friend. And he tried various medications, including LSD, in the interest of finding new ways of managing this disease. The Big Book of AA encourages outside solutions. Yet I and others have been publicly pilloried for managing mental illness. Ever notice how every one of these people smoke?
I guess that's okay in their books. And that is precisely my point. I submit that if you don't take care of business - spiritually, physically exercise financially and emotionally, along with practicing these principles in all our affairs - the story will not end well.
To Hell Back How to Have Feelings Stay Sober at the Same Time
Back before time began, my old sponsor cautioned me that there would be an awful lot of nonsense - lies, really - in and out of AA. Usually, not always, it was to make some jackass look good and another one feel good while they preached their gospel on your time. Every third word is "I". Very tedious. That sponsor also said that the 12 and 12 was and is the preimminent source, having been written 20 years after the Big Book.
And that is why many times I would rather read than listen. I remember being so relieved to read that Bill Wilson fought depression until around 15 years sober. For those who don't know, Bill Wilson was one of the 2 founders of AA, the one who did most of the writing of the big book, and many other AA books. Sorry, but I feel strongly that the use pf prescription drugs to alter my mood as a recovering addict is dangerous.
I have 2 close family members who traveled that road, and both ended up dead from the disease. I felt like killing myself numerous times sober, but I'm still here, and the depression is largely a thing of the past. I am sober over 3 decades, with no prescription or self prescribed substances at all. So do as you will man, but I'm telling you that from my personal experience, it's a dangerous road. I was relieved to read Bill Wilson suffered long term depression because I was thinking I was doing something wrong.
So it made it easier for me to accept that I was depressed at years sober, or whatever it was. I have seen countless people commit suicide AND relapse over untreated depression. The 12 steps work. Millions of us have been helped. I really wish they had better statistics on long term recovery because I see a huge deficit of long-timers in the rooms of AA--do they grow out of AA AND stay sober? Or do they relapse? We don't know because we lose them. It has become an adage that "it's a program of attraction rather than promotion" means "leave the alcoholic member alone--it's THEIR job to contact us".
Bill DID have depression by the way, and it almost killed him. He experimented with LSD to try to alleviate it!!! How much better his quality of life had we had SSRI's to help major depression. Too many people take meds who should not take meds, but it is a personal choice, and in my state doctors do NOT pass out meds like candy. I have been sober from alcohol for 7 years, I have tried many anti-depressants because theu have helped me to deal with social anxiety.
I would like to go through sobriety without leaning on them but in the past doing sobriety without them has been a problem. I would like to see more about how people cope with life in long term sobriety, how they get through the various personality disorders associated with alcohol and then sobriety. I have a website www. I didn't go through AA although I respect the 12 steps method, having issues with being social meant that talking in a room with tons of people didn't really work for me.
I am 3 years sober. I never attended AA or sought any other help for my former alcohol problem. In my case it was getting engaged to a non drinker that gave me the strength and motivation to quit alcohol. I didn't get any pessure from my fiance now wife to quit but I knew that the relationship would only work if either she started drinking or I quit.
So I quit. Cold turkey. No AA, no counselling, no doctors visits. Just decided to quit and did so. At 3 years sober it never even occurs to me to drink alcohol. My now wife and I simply don't drink. Alcohol plays no part in our lives. Yet I also know that were I to lose my relationship with my wife I would be straight back to the bottle. No question about it. I'd be straight across the road to get some alcohol and that would be it. I was a very heavy drinker before.
I have found that sobriety is easy to maintain so long as I have my relationship with my wife. But without it I know I would relapse even if I had been sober for 30 years or more. Perhaps similar factors help explain the cases of long term sober people who relapse. There is most probably a change to their circumstances or a particular event which triggers the relapse. The alcoholism is a dark spectre that is always just over an addict's left shoulder. It can be subdued but never completely beaten. It lurks there waiting for any opportunity to pounce. One last comment - for me it was much easier to quit alcohol completely than to ever try to moderate my intake.
All or nothing. Never do anything half-hearted! How are the authors of the study defining relapse? If I'm sober for a year then go on a binge, is that a relapse? Or is a relapse when I begin drinking on a regular basis such that it interferes with my ability to lead a normal life? Hi, I'm sober for approximately 3 years. I didn't follow steps, I didn't go to aa. I only realized the path ahead of me if I was to continue as I was: I have kids and a good job, and the gutter is close to us all.
One way to go there is with alcohol. So: I quit. Life without alcohol isn't so hard. Millions of people do that:all Muslims must. What's the big deal? Get addicted to work, family or sport or the combination, something else constructive. I assumed this was going to be for a decade Guess from reading this article, it's for life. Gene Hawes, M. A thorough guide about how to get help for a friend or loved one who is having problems with alcohol or other drugs. Provides places, names, numbers--who to call, what questions to ask, and what to expect.
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